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**"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane** · **11-30-2025, 12:00 PM**

Hey guys guess what?

CHICKEN BUTT!

That too but also we want to update our Top 50!

It's been a few years and I think it's time. We've had a lot of great people achieve a lot of great things since the last go round, so let's reflect it properly.

What we need from you!

Comment below with recommendations for names to be added

Comment below for names to be moved higher from their current position

People who agree should react with a like, people who disagree can react with a hate.

Give us your reasons, either way.

Me and the TOP BRASS will put it all together and get it updated ASAP! Great way to start a new year, right?

The current list created in 2021: 2021 Top 50

The previous iteration from 2017: 2017 Top 50

Charlie Nickles · (11-30-2025)

Charlie Nickles should probably be on the list.

Kristoffer "Vamp" Arroyo · **11-30-2025, 02:24 PM**

I guess before I go making suggestions I have some questions.

1)Are people who graduated to the Hall of Legends still being removed from the list?

2)Can people move down the list?

3) If someone was on the list as a previous character can they be nominated back on the list with their new charactet?

**"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane** · **11-30-2025, 02:48 PM**

(11-30-2025, 02:24 PM)Kristoffer "Vamp" Arroyo Said: I guess before I go making suggestions I have some questions.

1)Are people who graduated to the Hall of Legends still being removed from the list?

2)Can people move down the list?

3) If someone was on the list as a previous character can they be nominated back on the list with their new charactet?

No one is just going to drop down the list other than by proxy of others moving up above them - if that makes sense. I'm not going to just decide someone is worse than they were in 2021... but others might have surpassed them.

We are trying to work out the kinks in the multi-character issue. It might be case by case? Some folks have completely removed themselves from an old retired character whereas others are still connected.

Characters in the Hall of Legends won't be on the Top 50 list.

Dolly Waters · (12-01-2025)

I guess it depends on what you guys are doing.

Here are my considerations based on the idea that all players that've been moved to the HOL since ‘21 will be off from the list:

HIGHER-
Ned Kaye
Danny Imperial Isaiah King
Thunder Knuckles
Mr. Oz
Maverick Scoops McGee

ADDED-
Charlie Nickles
Sebastian Everett Bryce
Dickie Watson
Lucy Wylde
Solomon Kline

Just off the top of my head…

Kristoffer "Vamp" Arroyo · (12-01-2025)

Here are my suggestions with the above rules in mind:

Move Ned Kaye into the Top 15
Move Dolly Waters into the Top 10
Move Thunder Knuckles into the top 15

Add
Isaiah King into the top 15
Charlie Nickles into top 15
Dickie Watson into top 20
SEB into the top 15
Alias into top 3
Lucy Wylde into top 25
Aurora into top 25
Thad Duke into top 15
James Shark somewhere on the list
Raion Kido somewhere on the list
Corey Smith/Lux/Engy II somewhere on the list

**"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane** · (11-30-2025)

(11-30-2025, 03:14 PM)Dolly Waters Said: Mr. Oz

Banning you for this

ELO · **11-30-2025, 04:09 PM**

(11-30-2025, 03:30 PM)Kristoffer "Vamp" Arroyo Said: Move Mark Flynn into the top 3

Mark Flynn was inducted into the Hall of Legends at Relentless and so won't be on the list.

I just haven't added him to the official Hall thread because I'm a sleepy boy and also because I forgot. Those two things might be related. On my to-do list this week.

Kristoffer "Vamp" Arroyo · **11-30-2025, 04:14 PM**

(11-30-2025, 04:09 PM)ELO Said:
(11-30-2025, 03:30 PM)Kristoffer "Vamp" Arroyo Said: Move Mark Flynn into the top 3

Mark Flynn was inducted into the Hall of Legends at Relentless and so won't be on the list.

I just haven't added him to the official Hall thread because I'm a sleepy boy and also because I forgot. Those two things might be related. On my to-do list this week.

Oh shit I forgot already. Ill remove him.

Mr. Oz · (11-30-2025)

(11-30-2025, 03:53 PM)"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane Said:
(11-30-2025, 03:14 PM)Dolly Waters Said: Mr. Oz

Banning you for this

Jennie Nickles · (11-30-2025)

Charlie Nickles needs to be on there.

ELO

For your consideration I present, the first ever Top 50 list developed by a vote of active and inactive roster circa 2011-ish.

https://www.angelfire.com/games2/xwf2/50.html

Isaiah King

(8 hours ago)ELO Said: For your consideration I present, the first ever Top 50 list developed by a vote of active and inactive roster circa 2011-ish.

https://www.angelfire.com/games2/xwf2/50.html

Recorded here for posterity:

1. Steve Jason
2. The Brand
3. Lee Stone
4. Jem WIlliams
5. "Bigg Rigg" John Gambino
6. Aidan "Blizzard" Collins
7. T Money
8. Cooper
9. James Raven
10. [Removed from list due to plagiarism]
11. Jayzon Williamz
12. KoRe
13. Centurion
14. Big Shank
15. Dynamic Dynamite
16. "Boondock Saint" Daniel Malcolm
17. Judas Iscariot
18. Kitten
19. Drake Komodo
20. Andrew Gibson
21. Cyren
22. K Money
23. Mr. High Flyer STS
24. Superballs
25. Raziel
26. Trent Gein
27. Golden Boy
28. Wannabe
29. Tomoko Hanahara
30. MiGRaiNe
31. Ranma Saotome
32. Kyle Demise
33. Rage
34. Hardcore Smitty
35. Extreme Warrior
36. Epic
37. Fuzz/Shawn Warstein
38. Sewaside
39. Dante Anglais
40. Psyko Stevo
41. Zach Rizza
42. 504 Boy
43. The Outsider Stone
44. Killjoy
45. Dominator
46. Default
47. Michael Extremer
48. Fred L
49. Hunter Ryan
50. Famine of the Vile

Ya'll hella old huh?

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