I'm not sure who has noticed, but there have been some issues as of late which seem to be stemming from different problems. To keep things in the open, I want to come right out and say the site appears to have been compromised by at least one hacking attempt in the last 24 hours which has resulted in some users having some or all of their threads deleted permanently in a way that even I cannot retrieve them. If you have backups saved, you are welcome to repost them as long as they do not violate any of the rules below as you read through this entire post. If anybody is missing RPs for this upcoming PPV and doesn't have any copies, please contact me and we might be able to allow you some extra time to get some new work up. If this has happened to multiple people and the rest of the staff agrees, we may extend the RP deadlines for this upcoming show to allow you guys to replace missing RPs.

Important: Since any website online can be hacked at anytime no matter how secure it is, this would be a great time to start making offsite copies of your more important posts and RPs just in case something does happen again and you have to repost.

There have also been some issues in the last 24 hours regarding the likes/hates system (again) as well as some other problems which might have been unrelated but oddly timed coincidences, such as everybody being given a boat load of XBux. The likes and hates have been taken down again and will most likely not return until I find a completely different version of that system like I was going to try and do before when I had to take it down the first time. As for the XBux, I have gone into the XBux system and attempted to have it recount everybody's totals but I can tell just by looking at the new statistics that the totals are wrong. I'm not sure if I will be able to dig deeper and find more accurate or recent totals but I will try. We may be able to apply some fixed totals by hand if anybody is pretty sure they had a certain amount but if I can tell you're making up an amount way higher than what you had, I'll just take all your XBux away, so please be honest if you ask me to restore your total by hand. lol

There was also a recent incident that I'm still getting caught up on which seems to be related to, once again, our reputation system being used in ways to take OOC jabs which resulted in a chain of events that saw a user sending messages to other users that should not have been sent, then getting banned, and then either hacking the site or having a friend of theirs hack the site. If you receive any unwanted messages moving forward, please forward them to me as soon as you receive them.

Regarding the reputation system, I'm not referring to any one individual but more of a case where there have been some really uncalled for reputation comments given in the last few months, added on to the fact that yesterday's reputation issue blew up into something it never should have, so I have decided to remove that function completely, permanently. Some might say it's the fault of those who leave undesirable reps and comments, while others might say it's the fault of the recipients not taking them in stride, but either way I don't want to have to deal with it. With that in mind, since I have run several forums in the past and I know what normally happens after a reputation or similar system is removed, I am going to also remove the ability to post comments directly on each other's profiles because it can unfortunately be used and abused in the same manner to stir up unwanted OOC drama. I may restore the profile comments at a later date once things have cooled down, however.

Additionally, I would like to officially make it known that we do not condone passing roleplays (or parts of them) to other users or friends for review or advice. There have been too many instances where this has turned into an issue and normally is dealt with behind the scenes, but seeing as the evidence suggests it's increasing, I have to make it a bannable offense.

To be clear on what I'm saying, do not send any part of any piece of any of your work to any other person by any method at all, ever. Do not ask them to proof read it for errors. Do not ask your roommate to help spice up your trash talk. Do not ask someone you talk to on a daily basis for tips on what to say. Do not show somebody your story and ask them if they'd change anything. Do not ask somebody how they think you should write a trash talk session or a follow up part of a story you're working on. The ONLY time anything should be seen by eyes other than your own or suggested by someone other than yourself is if you are working on a collaboration with somebody because you're in a team match of some sort with that person. If there is any confusion on this, I welcome questions here for all to see.

Lastly, do not take screenshots of sections of our forums and use them in your RPs. Things like the number of thread views a post has had, the time of a post, roster pages that have OOC information in them, etc... none of that should ever appear in an RP anymore. The only exception might be something like a picture in an avatar or a picture in a signature, which could be understandable to use in some way the same way a wrestler on television might show a funny picture of their opponent during a segment. X-Bux pics could also be ok as long as the screen shot is cropped so the rest of the boards and OOC stuff aren't showing.

Sorry for the inconveniences some of you have had as a result of the last 24 hours. Like I said, comments and questions are welcome here just to make sure everybody is on the same page as we move forward.

"Told ya Shane.. judgment was comin'."


Oh! This is OOC.


"Told ya Shane.. judgment was comin'... hehehe."

Wallace and I have a thing going where we use each others characters, for the love story we have going. But we would send off the parts relating to the others character only, to make sure we used them right. That's no longer allowed?

I am not replacing a damn thing. If you don't know what happened in Robbie Bourbon issues 1-13, it's not my problem if you don't get what's happening in issue 14, winning or losing be damned.

Yep, I'm one of those guys who had everything wiped, mostly for not empathizing with whatever whining twat decided to message me, warning me that this was less a strict competition and more a social thing, like I already didn't fucking know.

So, pardon if it's all disjointed, but since I have zero canon anymore save what happened on Warfare and a post declaring that Robbie Bourbon was arrested, if you feel lost pretend you're the kid who left his comic books somewhere he shouldn't have, because I am not going to let it be my problem. Problems are what real life is for.

Robbie man, cool your jets. The judging is fair, imo.

Shane just has no other way to replace what was missing and therefore no way to make sure it gets judged.

I'm not mad at anyone here, and I don't criticize the judging system. I am not going to scramble to make up for lost data when I'm also responsible for writing a match because that will slow everybody who hasn't been impacted down. It isn't fair to them. Win or lose, I can't complain, and if I lose because my shit is gone, it was on me to replace it. I won't fall into the same place as whomever decided to cry and then wreck someone else's shit because they didn't get their fucking way. That being said, I just feel a little too spent between work and other shit on my itinerary to compensate for it, either.

I mean, my biggest beef is Bourbon and Game Girl were actually telling a good story, I feel, and now we just have chunks of Game Girl talking down about humanity, which makes no sense, and in order to tie it together now, well, I have writer's block in regards to that.

Okay, cool.

I'm just a fan of yours and didn't want you to get angry and quit, or say anything that got you in hot water.

#Bourbon4Life

(07-30-2015, 06:43 AM)SwagMire Said: Wallace and I have a thing going where we use each others characters, for the love story we have going. But we would send off the parts relating to the others character only, to make sure we used them right. That's no longer allowed?

That's the absolute most it should come to. Nothing past that though, just to be safe.

(07-30-2015, 07:38 AM)Robbie Bourbon Said: warning me that this was less a strict competition and more a social thing, like I already didn't fucking know.

If you could elaborate on that comment I would appreciate it.

(07-30-2015, 08:17 AM)Robbie Bourbon Said: I'm not mad at anyone here, and I don't criticize the judging system. I am not going to scramble to make up for lost data when I'm also responsible for writing a match because that will slow everybody who hasn't been impacted down. It isn't fair to them. Win or lose, I can't complain, and if I lose because my shit is gone, it was on me to replace it. I won't fall into the same place as whomever decided to cry and then wreck someone else's shit because they didn't get their fucking way. That being said, I just feel a little too spent between work and other shit on my itinerary to compensate for it, either.

I mean, my biggest beef is Bourbon and Game Girl were actually telling a good story, I feel, and now we just have chunks of Game Girl talking down about humanity, which makes no sense, and in order to tie it together now, well, I have writer's block in regards to that.

I think I speak for everyone and hope these two build to a rematch. They where telling an awesome story and I would love to see it continue!

(07-30-2015, 08:35 AM)Shane Anonistrator Said:

(07-30-2015, 06:43 AM)SwagMire Said: Wallace and I have a thing going where we use each others characters, for the love story we have going. But we would send off the parts relating to the others character only, to make sure we used them right. That's no longer allowed?

That's the absolute most it should come to. Nothing past that though, just to be safe.

(07-30-2015, 07:38 AM)Robbie Bourbon Said: warning me that this was less a strict competition and more a social thing, like I already didn't fucking know.

If you could elaborate on that comment I would appreciate it.

Basically, he went off about how Game Girl is also a GM, and seemed to decry the idea that people become friendly with one another OOC because it was of his opinion it led to preferential treatment. I already see it as a role playing game, and in my experience with tabletops, they're usually way better with a group of friends who can relate and understand one another, or at least are willing to bridge any gaps in communication to come to a better understanding with each other, creating an enjoyable experience while still maintaining the fact we were congregating for a challenge.

I already knew GG was an admin, though. It is not an issue, nor can it even be considered one.

The message I got was from someone who came off sounding like everybody else didn't matter, nor did it sound like someone who was willing to extend themselves to actually be available to anyone else. I have never asked for assistance in my RP's, but I have asked for criticism and feedback from a few personalities around here besides the clear cut win/loss of a card, especially if I wound up posting against a no-show and wouldn't have that common barometer. In some cases, I didn't require that, I was able to see what I did when I lost and try to avoid repeating some of the key tones and messages I was delivering.

I also replied to the messages offering help. I wouldn't outright write for them, or even analyze their opponents or their rps, but give pointers where there voice became difficult to hear (especially since we're all responsible for bringing a unique and different portrayal of events).

Essentually, though, prior to my whole everything going bye bye, in the pet peeve thread it was behavior exemplary of what I could gripe about; he wanted everybody who busted their ass to deliver characters in a muted fashion to match him rather than try to bring a character turned up to 11 to help establish a world turned up to 11 while dealing with an opponent doing their best to turn it up to 11 themselves, all because he thought 7 or 8 was as loud as it should get.

(07-30-2015, 09:16 AM)Robbie Bourbon Said: Basically, he went off about how Game Girl is also a GM, and seemed to decry the idea that people become friendly with one another OOC because it was of his opinion it led to preferential treatment. I already see it as a role playing game, and in my experience with tabletops, they're usually way better with a group of friends who can relate and understand one another, or at least are willing to bridge any gaps in communication to come to a better understanding with each other, creating an enjoyable experience while still maintaining the fact we were congregating for a challenge.

I already knew GG was an admin, though. It is not an issue, nor can it even be considered one.

Essentually, though, prior to my whole everything going bye bye, in the pet peeve thread it was behavior exemplary of what I could gripe about; he wanted everybody who busted their ass to deliver characters in a muted fashion to match him rather than try to bring a character turned up to 11 to help establish a world turned up to 11 while dealing with an opponent doing their best to turn it up to 11 themselves, all because he thought 7 or 8 was as loud as it should get.

I've always been kind of torn on that whole competition vs friends environment when it comes to e-fedding. We did have a major problem with that back when I took over the XWF because there were very obvious patterns of past staff arguing with other staff about why their friend deserves the win, even when it was obvious to others they should not. There was also the whole trend of the XWF being too much of an OOC hang out, including a large group of people who didn't even RP but thought they had the right to criticize and dictate XWF operations, as well as troll members who they weren't friends with. The XWF isn't intended to be a place to make friends in real life, but if it happens and can be kept on a respectable level, that's fine. Above all else, it is a place to compete and a place to showcase work you are proud of. A year or two back there was an unfortunate trend here where the reps system was used by people to continuously fluff the rep scores of the people they were obviously close with OOC and it almost blew up into a bigger fiasco, but then I limited how often or in what methods you could give the same person multiple plus reps. We all do have to remember that this isn't a social gathering website, and we should be here to compete above all else.

It sounds like you and he exchanged quite a few messages. He actually told you he wants people to dumb down their work or something to that effect? Or what do you mean by the 11's, 7's and 8's? If you still have those messages, please PM them to me privately because that has me curious as well. If they aren't in your inbox, there is a chance some would still be in your sent folder.

To me the whole message came off as though he was upset with the success of someone else. I can forward you the verbatims if you'd like.

As for what you described as problematic, to whit I agree would be, is definitely not what I meant. Respect the game, but have fun with it and be sociable without dipping into cronyism.

I agree completely. It's just that I've seen a few times where, even if unintentional, it does turn into a little too much of a kliq situation ooc and we have to all be careful not to let that happen. I've worked very hard over the years to try and repair the XWF's reputation after that sort of thing was running like wildfire for so many years before I took over.

Sure, PM me anything you can find please. Thanks.

Shane, the one that was sent to me got deleted or I'd forward it to you.
The dud said he was character here before and two names came to mind

its cyren and rayne

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Quote:Lastly, do not take screenshots of sections of our forums and use them in your RPs. Things like the number of thread views a post has had, the time of a post, roster pages that have OOC information in them, etc... none of that should ever appear in an RP anymore. The only exception might be something like a picture in an avatar or a picture in a signature, which could be understandable to use in some way the same way a wrestler on television might show a funny picture of their opponent during a segment.

What roster pages have OOC information on them?

Also, there was a time when Shades made mention of Kendall Sawyer having a briefcase, which she no longer did but it was still listed on the website as such and he took a screenshot of the briefcase graphic in her profile and threw that in my face.

I did not have any issue with that then nor do I take issue with it now but it's sounding like from what you are saying above that that sort of thing isn't allowed. Is that accurate? To me I would think that if it is on the forums and not in an OOC section then it should be fair game? I'd be fine if someone wanted to take a screenshot of the title history page if they were trying to make a point about it or something on it. Me personally my roster pages have only ever had IC information on them and i'm not sure why one would put OOC stuff on there.

I agree with not screenshotting things like page views since we know how ridiculous those numbers are, as well as things like rep/profile comments/likes(when they existed) but I feel like there are other things on the forums that could be fair game.

Board profiles and submitted roster page threads both have multiple instances of OOC material on them in most cases. Mentions of "threads" is OOC, the word picbase is OOC, a description of a "special entrance, if any" is something that might be debated but wouldn't make sense to screencap if someone decided to do that. The mention of whether you're "new or returning" does at times get responded to in an OOC manner if they take it as being per handler vs per character. Comments in the additional information section can either be IC or OOC, but in many cases we can tell when they're OOC. Mention of where a handler lives as opposed to where a character lives... etc... I'm sure I'm forgetting some examples too. Unless a person puts a full page layout over their account profile that hides mentions of threads and posts, registration dates, etc... it's filled with OOC content. Unless a person who filled out a roster page went out of their way to remove all of the lines relating to new/old, picbases, descriptions (why would an appearance need to be described IC?), and additional notes, then those also are filled with OOC content.

Yes, others in the past have done the things I'm saying to not do anymore, which is why they have to be put a stop to... enough people have done them over the months/years and in general receive negative reactions either on the boards or privately. Why would I mention them if nobody had ever done them in the past to become a problem? Bringing up that a past party has done something I make against the rules now, is never a valid argument for why it shouldn't be a rule, but rather is the reason it's the rule now. I will usually let most things slide for a while (sometimes a long while) before I eventually have to step in and make a rule.

Quote: Bringing up that a past party has done something I make against the rules now, is never a valid argument for why it shouldn't be a rule, but rather is the reason it's the rule now.

I agree. Fortunately no one did that.

(07-31-2015, 03:31 PM)Ozymandias Said:

Quote: Bringing up that a past party has done something I make against the rules now, is never a valid argument for why it shouldn't be a rule, but rather is the reason it's the rule now.

I agree. Fortunately no one did that.

(07-31-2015, 05:20 AM)Ozymandias Said: Also, there was a time when Shades made mention of Kendall Sawyer having a briefcase, which she no longer did but it was still listed on the website as such and he took a screenshot of the briefcase graphic in her profile and threw that in my face.

Daaaamn, yo. Good thing we aren't doing this for a match

(07-31-2015, 05:20 AM)Ozymandias Said: I did not have any issue with that then nor do I take issue with it now but it's sounding like from what you are saying above that that sort of thing isn't allowed. Is that accurate?

Damn yo, it's a good thing I was asking you to verify that an example that you did not specifically mention but that did happen in the past that was not addressed previously does in fact fall under the umbrella of this new rule you are enacting. You know as opposed to saying anywhere in my previous message that said example should be allowed. You're right it is a good thing we aren't doing this for a match.

Perhaps the lack of clarification on why you'd be asking me to double verify something came into play. Correct, everything I said was not allowable is indeed not allowable. The only allowable screenshots would be of an avatar or signature as mentioned in my first post. So you were asking if something other than those is allowable?

Well you said the only exceptions might be the avatar or signature picks. That word might indicates that there could be others things that would be allowed had they been thought of at the time. It's hard to think of everything all at once especially when trying to kick out a big message like you were while trying to go deal with real life issues.

You didn't actually mention in your original post anything about character profile screens and the example I did mention, showing a picture of a 24/7 case can no way be mistaken for something OOC so that was why I was asking you to verify that something like that would indeed not be allowed going forward. I was asking that for the benefit of everyone and not just me. It just so happens that the example happened to me, thus why I thought of it.

Yes I see what you're saying but was that entire message not geared toward questioning the rule and suggesting that perhaps it not exist, or at the very least include a lesser number of restricted items? So of course when you mentioned the Shades screenshot, it sounds a lot like it's being used as an example within a message that had the overall goal of removing or changing the rule.

When I said they might be ok, that's because there could be situations where they might not be. If somebody for some reason has a bunch of OOC in their signature or even stranger right in their avatar picture, then of course those instances would not be ok. I didn't mean there could be additional unknown allowable screenshots.

There should be no reason a person needs to screencap somebody's briefcase, additional badges, championship belts, etc. Although they COULD just take the image of the briefcase or a championship belt and put that in an RP if for some reason it fits what they're doing. I just don't want it done in a way that is intended to be used as some kind of proof of anything by the manner in which an image might appear, possibly mistakenly, on an account.

(07-31-2015, 04:34 PM)Shane Anonistrator Said: Yes I see what you're saying but was that entire message not geared toward questioning the rule and suggesting that perhaps it not exist, or at the very least include a lesser number of restricted items?

Nope not at all. In fact the exact opposite. I was asking if that specific example which was not in anyway addressed previously should also be considered unacceptable not advocating for why it should be acceptable.

(07-31-2015, 04:34 PM)Shane Anonistrator Said: I just don't want it done in a way that is intended to be used as some kind of proof of anything by the manner in which an image might appear, possibly mistakenly, on an account.

I agree with you completely and I can see exactly why it should not be allowed but that it happened months ago and was not addressed then is why I am asking now. Because usually when someone does something wrong or something against the rules we try and nip it in the bud then and not months later. I understand that sometimes you let things slide and see how they play out rather than addressing them right away but since you didn't say that in your original post I had no way of knowing that my example was an example of something that you let slide and not something that might be acceptable now. Thus why I asked.

Yeah, back then it wasn't a rule. It's sad that it has to become a rule because I love some of the screenshots that have been used over time, especially ones Madison has used on occasion.

As for your earlier question though, you did mention how you feel as though some other areas of the forums could be fair game, and suggested that if it's something we can tell isn't OOC such as a title history, it be allowed. I wish that were possible but over time it has started to look like we can't trust everybody to distinguish the differences. I'm really, really, really putting faith into people now though when it comes to avatars and signatures, and hoping that if something is obviously an OOC mention in either of those, it NOT be used IC in any way. I have to believe at least that much can be left up in the air.

Putting faith in people? Who does that?

Woah, what the hell has happened in the last 48 hours of my inactivity?

Win/Loss record:2-3

Accomplishments: 1x Xtreme Champ (8/23/2015-9/2/2015(aired on 9/4/2015) Length:11 Days)



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(07-31-2015, 07:47 PM)The Reverend Tholomew Plague Said: Woah, what the hell has happened in the last 48 hours of my inactivity?

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(07-31-2015, 07:53 PM)Shane Anonistrator Said:

(07-31-2015, 07:47 PM)The Reverend Tholomew Plague Said: Woah, what the hell has happened in the last 48 hours of my inactivity?

Gay sex

I would have spammed the "like" button on this post.

Morbid just watched, though. He didn't participate.

(07-31-2015, 07:57 PM)Drew Archyle Said:

(07-31-2015, 07:53 PM)Shane Anonistrator Said:

(07-31-2015, 07:47 PM)The Reverend Tholomew Plague Said: Woah, what the hell has happened in the last 48 hours of my inactivity?

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I would have spammed the "like" button on this post.

Spam my dick button.

(07-31-2015, 08:03 PM)SwagMire Said: Morbid just watched, though. He didn't participate.

Oh yes he did. He's inside me now. You just can't see him.

Typical Shane response, bring out the shit-filled condoms

Win/Loss record:2-3

Accomplishments: 1x Xtreme Champ (8/23/2015-9/2/2015(aired on 9/4/2015) Length:11 Days)



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(07-31-2015, 07:57 PM)Drew Archyle Said:

(07-31-2015, 07:53 PM)Shane Anonistrator Said:

(07-31-2015, 07:47 PM)The Reverend Tholomew Plague Said: Woah, what the hell has happened in the last 48 hours of my inactivity?

Gay sex

I would have spammed the "like" button on this post.

Careful about what you like. You never know whose feelings you're hurting.