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**"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane** · (03-30-2020)

Morning, cool cats and kittens.

I was talking to Theo last night about title belts and it got me thinking about some of the more unique ones out there. Wanted to get input from you guys and see if there's stuff I've never heard of.

For example, this is the "Open the Dream Gate" Championship from Dragongate. This thing is unlike anything I've seen. Official challengers get a key, and if they win, they unlock the front of the belt and etch their name in the plate inside. If they lose, the champion keeps their key and carries it around like a trophy. There aren't a ton of useful pictures of it but man, what an idea.

Then there's the Gift of the Gods title from Lucha Underground, which acts sort of like a 24/7 case but gets defended like a championship along the way. There were seven discs and each one was won by someone, who then all faced off in a 7-person elimination match for the gift of the gods. They could then cash it in for a match with the LU champion at any time. Plus it looked dope.

I've tried to think of ways to do these sorts of things in XWF, but 1) we have plenty of titles and I don't really want to get rid of any of them to make room and 2) man that's complicated!

What about you guys? Any fun stuff you've seen? Just cool looking belts you'd like to share? I work from home now, so, hit me.

Jim "the Jim" Jimson · **03-30-2020, 11:15 PM**

Back in 2013, there was a title I saw a few times in an Aussie promotion (UWA) called "the drizzling shitbird" it was a poorly drawn cardboard cutout of the eagle wwf title, but now the eagle was dead and has flies around it. The way you won was by losing a match. E.g Vinnie was the Drizzling shitbird champ and beat Jim Jimson is a match, Jim Jimson is now the drizzling shitbird champion. This applied to everything if you were thrown out of a battle royal by the shitbird champ. Congrats you're the shitbird champ now. Tag Team matches, if you got pinned by the champ, you bet your bottom dollar that, that guy getting pinned has to carry a cardboard cutout of a dead bird now.

The title was ripped up by a heel manager to the anger of the crowd after a year or two of it being around. Some photos may exist of it, but I highly doubt it. If there is one, it's certainly not a clear shot

Thought it was a neat title.

TLDR: A 24/7 title, but you win it by losing

The Hired Gun · (03-31-2020)

(03-30-2020, 11:15 PM)Jim "the Jim" Jimson Said: Back in 2013, there was a title I saw a few times in an Aussie promotion (UWA) called "the drizzling shitbird" it was a poorly drawn cardboard cutout of the eagle wwf title, but now the eagle was dead and has flies around it. The way you won was by losing a match. E.g Vinnie was the Drizzling shitbird champ and beat Jim Jimson is a match, Jim Jimson is now the drizzling shitbird champion. This applied to everything if you were thrown out of a battle royal by the shitbird champ. Congrats you're the shitbird champ now. Tag Team matches, if you got pinned by the champ, you bet your bottom dollar that, that guy getting pinned has to carry a cardboard cutout of a dead bird now.

The title was ripped up by a heel manager to the anger of the crowd after a year or two of it being around. Some photos may exist of it, but I highly doubt it. If there is one, it's certainly not a clear shot

Thought it was a neat title.

TLDR: A 24/7 title, but you win it by losing

I WANT IT!

Hanari Carnes · (03-31-2020)

Any of these look better than Thunder Knuckles monstrosity called the X-Bux Belt

Thunder Knuckles™ · (04-19-2020)

If you duct it...

Robert "The Omega" Main · **03-31-2020, 02:53 AM**

Few of my faves

Centurion · (03-31-2020)

Nothing beats the original XWF title belts.

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**"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane** · (04-19-2020)

I actually had discussed a potential "win it by losing" albatross-style title a while back for XWF but tbh I'm not sure how it would work in a RP environment. I guess the idea of it being so embarrassing to hold the title and therefore motivating you to beat someone? Maybe.

The drizzling shitbird is a much better idea than I ever thought of though.

(03-30-2020, 11:15 PM)Jim "the Jim" Jimson Said: Back in 2013, there was a title I saw a few times in an Aussie promotion (UWA) called "the drizzling shitbird" it was a poorly drawn cardboard cutout of the eagle wwf title, but now the eagle was dead and has flies around it. The way you won was by losing a match. E.g Vinnie was the Drizzling shitbird champ and beat Jim Jimson is a match, Jim Jimson is now the drizzling shitbird champion. This applied to everything if you were thrown out of a battle royal by the shitbird champ. Congrats you're the shitbird champ now. Tag Team matches, if you got pinned by the champ, you bet your bottom dollar that, that guy getting pinned has to carry a cardboard cutout of a dead bird now.

The title was ripped up by a heel manager to the anger of the crowd after a year or two of it being around. Some photos may exist of it, but I highly doubt it. If there is one, it's certainly not a clear shot

Thought it was a neat title.

TLDR: A 24/7 title, but you win it by losing

**"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane** · **03-31-2020, 05:02 AM**

Oh man, these guys were top notch!

Shawn Warstein · **03-31-2020, 05:09 AM**

(03-31-2020, 04:32 AM)Centurion Said: Nothing beats the original XWF title belts.

Ahhh the good ole days.....

Sit around children and let me tell you the story of the past

**"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane** · **03-31-2020, 05:33 AM**

Just give us the damn archive disc!!!!

(03-31-2020, 05:09 AM)Shawn Warstein Said:
(03-31-2020, 04:32 AM)Centurion Said: Nothing beats the original XWF title belts.

Ahhh the good ole days.....

Sit around children and let me tell you the story of the past

Shawn Warstein · (03-31-2020)

When I go to New Jersey when Corona passes I can hand deliver it to you.

Theo Pryce · **03-31-2020, 09:36 AM**

(03-31-2020, 05:39 AM)Shawn Warstein Said: When I go to New Jersey when Corona passes I can hand deliver it to you.

We do have this thing called the USPS. Also Fed Ex, UPS, and a few others.

Shawn Warstein · **03-31-2020, 09:53 AM**

Or hear me out.... no. Tried that got lost in the mail.

**"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane** · **03-31-2020, 10:00 AM**

That's because Raven is Canadian so there's letters in his zip code.

Theo Pryce · **03-31-2020, 01:22 PM**

(03-31-2020, 09:53 AM)Shawn Warstein Said: Or hear me out.... no. Tried that got lost in the mail.

Can you send it to me and I'll send it to Raven.

Shawn Warstein · **03-31-2020, 01:23 PM**

Sure

The Hired Gun · **03-31-2020, 07:08 PM**

(03-31-2020, 04:32 AM)Centurion Said: Nothing beats the original XWF title belts.

Wait... I thought the flame belt was one of the originals.....

Jim "the Jim" Jimson · **03-31-2020, 07:17 PM**

(03-31-2020, 05:02 AM)"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane Said: Oh man, these guys were top notch!

Its so strange these guys went out of business?

Robert "The Omega" Main · (04-19-2020)

(03-30-2020, 04:34 AM)"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane Said: Morning, cool cats and kittens.

I was talking to Theo last night about title belts and it got me thinking about some of the more unique ones out there. Wanted to get input from you guys and see if there's stuff I've never heard of.

For example, this is the "Open the Dream Gate" Championship from Dragongate. This thing is unlike anything I've seen. Official challengers get a key, and if they win, they unlock the front of the belt and etch their name in the plate inside. If they lose, the champion keeps their key and carries it around like a trophy. There aren't a ton of useful pictures of it but man, what an idea.

Then there's the Gift of the Gods title from Lucha Underground, which acts sort of like a 24/7 case but gets defended like a championship along the way. There were seven discs and each one was won by someone, who then all faced off in a 7-person elimination match for the gift of the gods. They could then cash it in for a match with the LU champion at any time. Plus it looked dope.

I've tried to think of ways to do these sorts of things in XWF, but 1) we have plenty of titles and I don't really want to get rid of any of them to make room and 2) man that's complicated!

What about you guys? Any fun stuff you've seen? Just cool looking belts you'd like to share? I work from home now, so, hit me.

So, the "Open the Dream Gate" Championship from Dragongate would the “champion” have the belt? Or would he accrue keys? I think this would be an awesome concept to try out. It would add layers to segments and rps. Holding tons of keys and a championship would be cool. I’d be all in for something like this. Let’s do it. Maybe two rp limit one cold open? Let’s do this.

~~Peter Fn Gilmour~~ · (04-19-2020)

i like the AEW belt myself..

and some indy feds here in NY/NJ got some decent looking belts

Luna Hightower · **03-31-2020, 11:18 PM**

Okay, that Dragongate belt is fucking awesome. I'll have to look more into that but as for the Lucha Underground one, that belt was one of the reasons I got into LU, sad it's not going on anymore but that belt was sick as fuck and I loved the idea of it.

I also like that IWPG US belt. I tend to like the bigger looking belts, my favorite is of course the Big Gold belt. Fucking awesome.

Jim "the Jim" Jimson · **03-31-2020, 11:56 PM**

(03-31-2020, 04:32 AM)Centurion Said: Nothing beats the original XWF title belts.

Only the best titles for XWF

Jim "the Jim" Jimson · **04-01-2020, 12:04 AM**

(03-31-2020, 04:55 AM)"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane Said: I actually had discussed a potential "win it by losing" albatross-style title a while back for XWF but tbh I'm not sure how it would work in a RP environment. I guess the idea of it being so embarrassing to hold the title and therefore motivating you to beat someone? Maybe.

The drizzling shitbird is a much better idea than I ever thought of though.

Here's an idea. If you "won" the title, you must give up/vacate all other titles or future title shots you have. I.e . TK is the xtreme champ has a breifcase and has a no.1 for the hart title. He gets pinned by Jim Jimson the shitbird champ. TK has now lost a briefcase, the xtreme title and a hart title shot.

I can see this stipulation really fucking someone over, maybe its a bit too harsh so I'm not fully sure bout it

**"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane** · (04-19-2020)

(03-31-2020, 08:18 PM)Robert "The Omega" Main Said: So, the "Open the Dream Gate" Championship from Dragongate would the “champion” have the belt? Or would he accrue keys? I think this would be an awesome concept to try out. It would add layers to segments and rps. Holding tons of keys and a championship would be cool. I’d be all in for something like this. Let’s do it. Maybe two rp limit one cold open? Let’s do this.

The champ had the belt, with his name inside it. Official contenders were awarded a key. When they challenged for the belt, they either got to unlock the belt and put their own name in it, or they gave the key over to the champ. The original belt had those keys dangling from it that the champ had collected, but I'm not clear if the newer one does or not.

Here's the older one.

**"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane** · **04-01-2020, 05:20 AM**

(03-31-2020, 08:49 PM)Peter Fn Gilmour Said: i like the AEW belt myself..

and some indy feds here in NY/NJ got some decent looking belts

What's the best local wrestling group, Gilly? I live in NJ now and yes I will be fucking with you.

B.O.B. D · (04-19-2020)

(04-01-2020, 05:20 AM)"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane Said:
(03-31-2020, 08:49 PM)Peter Fn Gilmour Said: i like the AEW belt myself..

and some indy feds here in NY/NJ got some decent looking belts

What's the best local wrestling group, Gilly? I live in NJ now and yes I will be fucking with you.

Sounds like y'all need to go to the Strip Club together, maybe run a train on some prostitutes.

Assssssssss for the topic, I enjoy the idea of the key one and a loser belt. The Loser one would be nice, because some people could almost make a gimmick around the belt alone.

~~red-x~~ · (04-19-2020)

(04-01-2020, 12:04 AM)Jim "the Jim" Jimson Said:
(03-31-2020, 04:55 AM)"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane Said: I actually had discussed a potential "win it by losing" albatross-style title a while back for XWF but tbh I'm not sure how it would work in a RP environment. I guess the idea of it being so embarrassing to hold the title and therefore motivating you to beat someone? Maybe. The drizzling shitbird is a much better idea than I ever thought of though.

Here's an idea. If you "won" the title, you must give up/vacate all other titles or future title shots you have. I.e . TK is the xtreme champ has a breifcase and has a no.1 for the hart title. He gets pinned by Jim Jimson the shitbird champ. TK has now lost a briefcase, the xtreme title and a hart title shot. I can see this stipulation really fucking someone over, maybe its a bit too harsh so I'm not fully sure bout it

Maybe we could have it be on Anarchy, name it the 'Loserweight' title and havea stip, seeing as "winning" the belt would be so detrimenta. This would give ppl a reason to face off for the belt ....If the challenger wins, instead of losing what they have, they would garner a case or some similar prize that would be of lofty stature.

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