(12-23-2013, 01:22 PM)Michael McBride Said: Shane, I wanted to know. When you're X-Treme champ, lets say you're in a tag match and you get pinned, does the title change hands, I mean it's a 24/7 belt right? So even if you're in a match that's a tag match, and YOU get pinned. Doesn't that mean you lose the belt. You have to defend it 24/7. I think that's how the Hardcore title worked in The WWE. I don't remember tho xD

Yes, if the champ is pinned they lose the title. In the past, some tag matches and other strange matches have had the x-treme title in play even though the match itself was not "for" that title. So yes, the champ would lose the title if they get pinned BUT NOT lose the title if their partner got pinned or if some other circumstance led to another winner. This would be an example of a non-credible title defense.

(12-23-2013, 01:22 PM)Theo Pryce Said: To counter this, what if someone wins the X-Title, holds it for 6 months and loses it on the 24/7 board because some freak thing happened over the weekend and they couldn't access the internet? Just as what Austin described earlier in terms of uncontrollable circumstances. How is that fair to the guy or gal who busted their ass for months only to lose the title without being out RPed for it. I think that might be my biggest frustration of all and why it's seen as a joke. You don't have to out RP anyone to win it, and RPs are the biggest part of efeds.

That's what I'm saying too though... as long as it's a 24/7 title it will be thought of like a joke because of how easy it is to win if you're in the right place at the right time. People look at that BEFORE they look at the fact that it's the hardest title to KEEP. I'd almost feel like crying for the person who lost it like that after 6 months because I can only imagine how that would feel after all that work! It would suck my left nut.

Anyway though as far as the current scene, I like our title balance because we have both sides of the fence.
We have the hardest title to KEEP: X-treme title.
We have the hardest title to WIN: TV title.
(And then we have the semi-joke title: UFO E1999 title, which is the official lowest title in the XWF)

Arguments could be made about why both the TV and XTreme titles should have some adjustments made. No system will ever make everyone happy. It could be claimed that the TV title is SO easy to keep once you hold it, that it should be the lowest title. I believe this never gets touched upon because of how highly respected the TV champion is OOC. I mean let's be honest guys... if Gilmour was TV champ, we'd all be talking about TV title rules right now and how it's been way too easy for him to hold onto that title. lol

On an unrelated note to the actual topic but still related to the x-treme title, I also was considering adding SUBMISSION attempts to it! It's still an early thought but basically I'm considering adding another way to win that will reflect what a submission victory might take out of or require from both the attacker and receiver to either succeed or escape. Something different than simply kicking out in 12 hours, but not quite as complicated as the UFO method. Any ideas on this idea are welcome.