(04-05-2019, 06:44 AM)"Loverboy" Vinnie Lane Said: I think I'm in a minority because I enjoy different takes on comic characters. I thought Leto did a great job. I think everyone who has ever played the role has done well, actually. You could probably draw a parallel as to WHY the same subculture that shits itself over things like Thor becoming female, Spider-Man being a Hispanic kid, or any female character not just being a big-titted wank-target also hated the Leto "thugged out, urban" take on Mr. J (even though the character was barely on screen), but I think that part's pretty obvious. Worth noting how much they LOVED Harley from the same movie, though.

I think Phoenix is one of the best actors on the planet, and I have no doubt he will produce a memorable take.

Miles Morales>Peter Parker, fite me people

Nerd culture fucking sucks, by and large. Although I'm one of the people who wasn't a fan of Leto Joker. I didn't see him so much as "urban" as he was this pastiche of what some clueless crank snorting exec thought would be cool and hip. It just seemed like it was trying too fucking hard, and I thought the criticisms that he was some crass Hot Topic pandering wankery were pretty on point. Although if they wanted to do an African American Joker I think that would be the tits, although it runs the risk of doing "black Joker for the sake of doing black Joker". Seeing as how they're doing elseworld riffs though maybe doing some sort of Batman flick from the other side, with a Batman that is black and not rich fighting crime in the poor, forgotten parts of Gotham could have some creative merit. Batman's always been a little problematic because he's the ultimate product of privlege (a rich white man), so I think turning that on it's head might have promise.

So back to this movie, anybody else picturing a Dark Knight Returns esque scene where Joker goes on DeNiro's talk show and murks the whole audience? Could be the ending.